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Carin

Sorry Ralph but your wrong. A joint ticket is a bad idea. Yes, Senator Clinton and Senator Obama share many moderate views. But the difference is in their methodology. If they ran on a joint ticket, they would cancel each other out. Victory at all costs is not victory. I am tired of this us against them. Ralph, we are one nation. Not only does the democratic party need to unify. The Country needs to unify. If you can guess who I am supporting, then nuff said.

Ralph

Carin, how can we unify the country if we can't even unify the Democratic party? Dismissing the votes of almost half the Democrats in the country is not a good way to start the process - hence the call for a unity ticket.

Don't lose sight of those who always try to divide us to begin with. In fact that's been the Republican strategy since Nixon. For over 20 years the right wing smear machine has been attacking 'liberals' as un-American and immoral, etc. Now we have a chance to prove that patriotism is really about upholding our Constitutional ideals, not flag-waving militarism.

Is there another VP pick that you think would unify the party?

fuggettaboutit!

On yet another level altogether, the Republicans and Democratic Party are one and the same. The country's already as unified as it's gonna get, over 80% agreeing the Bush blows, the war is wrongheaded and the course of the nation is well off track. No elected official will bring meaningful, lasting change, least of all any of the presidential candidates. Even if Barry pulls it off, he's not going to usher in the fresh air everyone dreams he will.

Carin

Well, I was hoping for John Edwards. I think he would compliment either candidate.

Ralph

Hell, I wanted him for President because I knew that having the first serious black and female candidate would be very distracting in the media. And my fears have been more than borne out. That being said, I think picking Edwards as VP makes sense, but some would say we need new blood in there like Jim Webb of Virgina.

Carin

The media frenzy is unavoidable. Jim is cool. (btw, hillary would not be new blood.) But maybe too cool?

fuggettaboutit!

Yes, it's heartening (to me) to hear talk of Webb as VP. But let's not forget - Ron Paul never ended his bid, and he's far and away the best candidate. He's suffering a media blackout, and the presumption is that McCain (gag) has the nomination, but at minimum Paul will shake up the Republican convention and make people think. The truth is, if we could get out crap together, we could get Paul in office. I'm pro-choice where he's pro-life, but on absolutely everything else I've heard him opine on, I totally support his position. And to consider what kind of man he is against this climate, he's got a lot more star power than Obama for me.

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